Comments on: A Possible BHL position on Humanitarian Aid http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/ Free Markets and Social Justice Thu, 16 Nov 2017 21:45:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.8.3 By: Anonymous http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-13512 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:32:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-13512 It seems to me that Cohen is quite wrong. If the millionare gives the cash to the starving kid, it is a matter of benevolence not of justice.  What we want to say is that there is more to right action than simply justice; but I think it only confuses things to describe everything we want as a matter of justice.
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By: Uma possível posição a respeito da ajuda humanitária | Ordem Livre http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-10296 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:05:52 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-10296 […] Publicado originalmente em The Bleeding Heart Libertarians. […]

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By: Anonymous http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9969 Sun, 11 Sep 2011 00:40:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9969 Andrew, have you seen Michael Heumer’s article “Is There a Right to Immigrate? Really good!

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9937 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:34:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9937 I doubt “Fair trade requires that both sides have somewhat equal resources,” at least on any reasonable understanding of “somewhat equal.”  I buy products from Microsoft or Apple.  I think it would be a stretch to say that I have “somewhat equal resources” with Bill Gates or Steve Jobs.
I grant, on the other hand, that if the unequal resources are used by the wealthy to wrong the poor, there is a real problem (this is at the heart of what we call “relational equality”).  I don’t think, though, that I wrong someone from the destroyed island when I help them migrate to my country where they can lead decent, and even good, lives.
If I force the person into slavery or prostitution, I wrong them.  If they become prostitutes (or …) without being forced into it, I don’t wrong them.  I may want to help them nonetheless, but that is another story.

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9936 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:28:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9936 I side with Paul here.  I say let’s open the borders.  If people don’t want to sell or rent land or homes to immigrants, fine.  But laws prohibiting it are not, on my view, morally acceptable.

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9935 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:27:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9935 I agree that anti-trade policies are hugely problematic.  

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9934 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:26:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9934 Fernando-Nope, but I’ll add it  to my list.  I’ve heard others talk of it.

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9933 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:25:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9933 Well, it may be a “good idea” in some sense, but I’d need to know more about what you mean by that. I meant only to be writing about the *duties* we (might) have to people outside our borders.
Contrary to your final comment, this is not a “not on my dime” claim.  Its about making the world better and its about satisfying moral duties. I take it for granted that duties to others can be satisfied in multiple ways and that often we are only obligated to satisfy the duty in the least difficult way we can.  I actually think that is fairly uncontroversial.

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By: Andrew Cohen http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9932 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:21:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9932 I intended the analogy to be more direct.  You claimed that it isn’t help if we bring people from their home country to ours.  I don’t see that.  Just as I help Mr. Yachtman when I bring him on to my boat, which he likes far less then his (if at all), I think we help the sort of people we are discussing in other lands if we bring them to our home country, which they like far less then theirs (if at all).  It may not be the help they most want, but its help nonetheless.   (And I think its likely enough to satisfy any duty we have to them regarding the plight in question.)

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By: Paul Crider http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/09/a-possible-bhl-position-on-humanitarian-aid/#comment-9923 Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:46:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1248#comment-9923 Settling or squatting land … or rental properties. There are plenty of entities in the United States (for example)  who are perfectly happy to do business with migrants, including apartment managers, etc.

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