• Pajser

    But how you got to the title “the desire to fit in is the root of almost all wrongdoing”? I do not see that. I think that desire to conform makes us sometimes better, sometimes worse. If people do not conform to the norms, is it more likely they are better or they are worse than norm? Hard question, but it seems to me it is more likely that they are worse.

  • Ben Kennedy

    Conforming is still an act of self-interest. It is generally advantageous not to stick out too far

    • martinbrock

      Agreed. If servility does not also account for rightful behavior, why do we need rulers enacting rights? Both self-interest and servility explain everything and so explain very little.

    • Gabriel Conroy

      Agreed, too. And it’s not only negative. There’s a value to feeling like one belongs. That said, fitting in is not usually what I have in mind when I talk off the cuff about self-interest. So I think there’s a lot of value to the Aeon piece (I didn’t read the other article yet).

      • Gabriel Conroy

        I’d like to add a thank you to Christopher Freiman for introducing me to that book by Thomas Hill. I just checked it out at the library and started reading. It’s quite interesting.

  • martinbrock

    Self-interest is the root of practically all behavior, so it’s the root of “wrongful” behavior specifically, but this conclusion is not interesting. Why is some behavior labeled “wrong” and forcibly discouraged by the labelers (the rulers) while other behavior is not? Unruliness must have at least as much to do with the interests of the rulers as with the interests of the unruly.