Comments for Bleeding Heart Libertarians http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com Free Markets and Social Justice Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.8.3 Comment on Truthiness and the Problems of Knowing, REALLY Knowing by Sean II http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2017/11/truthiness-problems-knowing-really-knowing/#comment-82822 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:51:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=12071#comment-82822 Sometimes a night’s sleep clarifies one’s thoughts. Here’s a shorter version of my answer.

Pre-Watergate, there was obviously some kind of unspoken compact between the press and the politicians, which involved the press looking the other way at petty crimes, dirty tricks, bimbo escapades, other forms of non-policy related sleaze, etc.

The press decided to break that custom, by doggedly pursuing an unremarkable bit of campaign espionage until they turned it into a constitutional crisis.

Most likely reason it got that far: the press really hated Nixon. Bradlee and Co. would have killed the story much sooner if it was about Humphrey or McGovern.

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Comment on Truthiness and the Problems of Knowing, REALLY Knowing by Sean II http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2017/11/truthiness-problems-knowing-really-knowing/#comment-82820 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:31:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=12071#comment-82820 Nothing exotic. Just that Kennedy stole the 60 election, covered up the death of a famous mistress he was sharing with the brother who was also his Attorney General, while LBJ stole more elections than he won (with the weird irony that 1964 may have been his one truly clean win) on his way to a massive campaign of lying that escalated Vietnam, establishing the domestic spying program people would blame on Nixon, etc.

The bottom line is: Nixon was right in his central complaint against the world. He thought the press treated him worse for not being a pretty boy Harvard liberal like Kennedy, and he was right. He thought they dogged him him for doing or saying things they would have found charming in Camelot Jack, and he was right. He thought the Watergate story would have been buried on page 26 if he’d been a Democrat, and he was right about that too.

None of which – I hasten to add but shouldn’t have to – makes him a nice guy. It’s just that the main thing we all learn about Nixon – the idea that he was afflicted with paranoia about a hostile press, which led him to do bad things no President ever had before – is not true. The press was hostile to him. They did react differently to his statements and actions. The things he did seem rather mild compared to his predecessors.

He just wasn’t slick enough to figure out what Reagan did: that they only way to neutralize a hostile press is by pretending not to notice their hostility.

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Comment on Truthiness and the Problems of Knowing, REALLY Knowing by Rob Gressis http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2017/11/truthiness-problems-knowing-really-knowing/#comment-82819 Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:04:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=12071#comment-82819 Wait, what’s this about Watergate?

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Comment on Truthiness and the Problems of Knowing, REALLY Knowing by Sean II http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2017/11/truthiness-problems-knowing-really-knowing/#comment-82818 Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:22:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=12071#comment-82818 Counterpoint: there is nothing new happening here, just an old thing newly exposed.

To name but a few, here are some pivotal fake news moments in U.S. history:

1. Lusitania – myth is that this outrage forced a reluctant nation into war. Really is the bosses were already spoiling to jump in.

2. Pearl Harbor – myth is unprovoked suprise attack. Reality is we did everything we could think of to make war with Japan inevitable.

3. Watergate – myth is media-obsessed Nixon destroys himself after unprecedented crimes. Reality is Nixon-obssessed media changes the rules mid-game, started smoking out things they had once eagerly helped hide.

In all cases the people involved thought they were getting at a higher truth – make the world safe for democracy, remove an evil man from office, whatever. They all thought their small lies were helping to produce a larger truth.

The only difference now is, thanks to Twitter and shit, we occasdionally find out without having to wait twenty or thirty years.

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Comment on The Duty to Lie to Stupid Voters by Pat http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2014/04/the-duty-to-lie-to-stupid-voters/#comment-82817 Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:17:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=7659#comment-82817 It’s not a matter of duty but a matter of survival for a politician as voters will never elect an honest candidate. They will vote for politicians selling them a reassuring fairy tale, telling them that all problems will go away magically… They don’t want to hear the truth but to be reassured.

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Comment on Why Not Utilitarianism? by infamouscrimes http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2012/05/why-not-utilitarianism/#comment-82816 Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:48:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=2826#comment-82816 Suffering is the one and only measure of value. The goal of ethics (the scientific study of right and wrong) is to minimize suffering. There is no better system for this than utilitarianism. Essentially Matt Zwolinski is making the egoist argument for selfishness. No, your kids do not have any more value than anyone else’s. In fact, your kids have very little value except in their ability to suffer and to cause suffering. “..Most philosophers do not believe that utilitarianism is an adequate moral theory…” Oh you mean like Peter Singer, David Benatar, or Sam Harris, some of the most popular and widely read philosophers of our time? Or how about fictional characters like Mr. Spock? This article was pure muck raking slander and nonsense.

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Comment on Social Parasitism by HelloThere777 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/03/social-parasitism/#comment-82815 Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:00:00 +0000 http://www.bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=523#comment-82815 I’m not surprised at the unenlightened comments. Probably the worst social parasites AND “welfare queens” I can think of are the corrupt, unproductive politicians themselves. The ones who do/have NOTHING but government jobs*, are corrupt, and are the type who is a millionaire and has been in congress despite a decade or more by now, but always said no or “meh” to raising our minimum wage, but didn’t hesitate to suck more money out of us by raising THEIR salaries.

*Hence the term “welfare queen.” Politicians’ money is redristrubed from tax payers, like with actual welfare. The big difference is that on literal welfare you’re not able to live like a literal queen unlike our betters in Washington.

BTW, stay at home mothers ARE producers. They have one the most important responsibilities in history: helping to guide and properly raise the next generation of mankind. It’s right there in the description!

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Comment on Against Subjectivism by Backwardation797 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/08/against-subjectivism/#comment-82813 Sun, 12 Nov 2017 03:42:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1053#comment-82813 all opinions having equal value means they all have no value and hence your subjectivity leads to nihilism and entropy/decay

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Comment on Against Subjectivism by Backwardation797 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2011/08/against-subjectivism/#comment-82812 Sun, 12 Nov 2017 03:39:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=1053#comment-82812 if everyone’s opinion is equal then all points of view are worthless, equal to zero, and hence negates all value and meaning: subjectivity leads to nihilism and entropy/decay

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Comment on Anderson V. Munger Cage Match!!! by geoih http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/2017/11/anderson-v-munger-cage-match/#comment-82811 Fri, 10 Nov 2017 11:36:00 +0000 http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/?p=12068#comment-82811 Impressed with yourself much? I suppose if I hadn’t listened to the whole thing you would have had an attack ready for that as well. I can’t understand why so many think academics are just a bunch of self-absorbed prima donnas. Thanks for confirming the stereotype.

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